Statement of President of the Republic of Indonesia During the Opening of the National Coordination Meeting of the Government Internal Apparatus Supervision (APIP), at the Development Finance Comptroller (BPKP) Office East Jakarta, Special Capital Province of Jakarta, June 14, 2023

President of the Republic of Indonesia (Joko Widodo)
As I said earlier, orientation must be shifted from being product oriented to being result oriented. Monitor outcome. Have we already generated concrete outcome or not? It also applies to budgeting, be it at ministries/institutions, regional budget at provinces, regencies, and municipalities. Do not spend 80 percent of the budget only for meetings and business trips, not for concrete activities. That’s what Head of BPKP and I mean by not spending it optimally.

Journalist
I have two questions for you, Sir. You met Pak Ganjar yesterday. What has been discussed?

President of the Republic of Indonesia (Joko Widodo)
Yesterday we had a meeting about the rehabilitation of Borobudur Temple. We intend to conduct a total rehabilitation so it must be discussed in a meeting with Governor of Central Java, Governor of Special Region of Yogyakarta, and Regent of Malang. That was the meeting all about.

Journalist
Did you have a dinner with Pak Ganjar?

President of the Republic of Indonesia (Joko Widodo)
Ah, it was on the previous week.

Journalist
Have you talked about political affairs with him? Or nomination of Ganjar as a presidential candidate?

President of the Republic of Indonesia (Joko Widodo)
No. You should ask him directly or ask the PDIP.

Journalist
Sir, what is the result of yesterday’s meeting on transition from pandemic to endemic period. When it will be announced?

President of the Republic of Indonesia (Joko Widodo)
We’re still finalizing the plan and make the announcement in another one, two weeks since the number of cases has declined.

Journalist
What are factors to determine that we are moving to endemic based on yesterday’s meeting?

President of the Republic of Indonesia (Joko Widodo)
We will also continue to keep updating the number of COVID-19 cases. For instance, the number of new cases two days ago was 117, while [the number of] active cases was around 10,200. Our vaccination rate has also exceeded 452 million doses. Thus, on the previous meeting, we decided to move to endemic phase. Yet, the announcement will be done after finalization in another one, two weeks.

Journalist
Will the announcement be made this month?

President of the Republic of Indonesia (Joko Widodo)
Within this week, God willing.

Journalist
Do you have a statement about sea sand [export]? Commuter line? Or speculation that Kaesang will run for Depok Mayor?

President of the Republic of Indonesia (Joko Widodo)
(Talked about Depok regional election)

Journalist
On sea sand, some say sea sand export policy was deliberately issued to support Singapore’s investment in the IKN (Nusantara Capital). What do you think about that?

President of the Republic of Indonesia (Joko Widodo)
It’s unrelated. The Presidential Regulation, in fact, regulates sedimentary sand that impedes sailing and coral reefs. We have discussed it in many meetings and will continue to be discussed.

Journalist
What have been discussed in a meeting with Prabowo? Was it about peace proposal for Russia and Ukraine?

President of the Republic of Indonesia (Joko Widodo)
Up until now, Indonesia always and will continue to respect sovereignty and territorial integrity of other countries, all countries with no exception. Thus, we also expressed our stance to Zelenskyy and President Putin. Secondly, we hope the war will end. During the meeting with Prabowo, I also delivered the same points. The proposal is not generated from a high-level state forum or discussion forum; it’s only a dialog. Such suggestions are permissible; it’s not something bad.

Journalist
Does it mean the statement made by Prabowo is correct?

President of the Republic of Indonesia (Joko Widodo)
Once again, in a dialog, we are free to give suggestions. It was not in an interstate negotiation.

(RAS/EP)